Excellent Flash Animation on the Pentagon Strike : Thunderbay IMC

Pentagon Strike
by MIB Microsoft is Back Monday, Sep. 06, 2004 at 5:57 AM
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I am here to inform the creator of the little flash media that it will need to be removed at once...

The thing that happened is a plane crashed into the building... Now repeat after me... A plane...

WANTED PARTS FOR A TIME MACHINE THAT JUST HAPPENED TO BE AT THE SAME PLACE AS THAT PLANE CRASH THAT DAY!!!

It was a plane... I have the tapes to prove it... Muh-hahaha...

BTW excellent!!!!

Incredible photos, riviting questions and damning evidence ... I just wish you could slow the presentation down a bit so we could study it more closely.

I found the film EXTREMELY interesting! I didn't know a large plane could produce PERFECTLY round holes in buildings, either!!! excellent, thought provoking questions, too!
Slow the presentation down just a bit. Had a hard time keeping up with the reading, and trying to watch the video.

nice work. excellent use of audio and visual, they go together really well. it kinda freaked me out too, the music. i don't know how true your sources are, but you've kept me on the edge of my seat from the beginning to the end. good job!

right click and select save target as to download or just click on link to watch it full screen

This is a great work you have done. Very nice pictures to prove your point. I have seen it few times already and keep coming back to see it. And I totally believe this strike had nothing to do with a plane.

THANK YOU

if the pentagon was hit by a smaller plane, where did flight 77, the boeing 757 go.
one other thing, if i was Binladen the first thing i would do is to discredit the US goverment and state that ihad no involvment in the pentagon or it was a smaller plane or MISSILE that hit. but not one peoson from the middle east has come forward to do this. WHY NOT?
is there a conspiracy between the US gov and binladen or are we letting our imagimation get the better of us. please comment

what a fact???..the truth is out there..thank u for showing it to the world...

http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/pentagontrap.html
The Pentagon No-757-Crash Theory:
Booby Trap for 9/11 Skeptics

by Jim Hoffman
October 7, 2004

The idea that no 757 crashed at the Pentagon is easily the most controversial and divisive issue among researchers of the 9/11/01 attacks. Effectively promoted since early 2002, this idea has enjoyed an increasing acceptance in the 9/11 Truth Movement, despite its blatant incompatibility with the extensive body of eyewitness evidence that a 757-like twin-engine jetliner flew into the Pentagon and exploded.

Many researchers have ignored or dismissed this eyewitness evidence in favor of a seemingly overwhelming physical evidence case that no 757 crashed at the Pentagon, based on photographs of the crash site. As I show below, however, each of the pieces evidence adduced in favor of the no-757-crash theory can be reconciled with the crash of a 757.

The controversy over this issue has eclipsed the many documented facts linking the 9/11/01 attacks to insiders. Defenders of the official story have seized on this issue as representative of the gullibility and incompetence of 9/11 "conspiracy theorists".

http://911review.com/errors/pentagon/witnesses.html
ERROR: Eyewitnesses Saw a Small Plane

Literature of the no-757-crash theorists is full of suggestions that eyewitness saw something other than a 757 fly into the Pentagon, such as a commuter jet or cruise missile. In fact there are only a few such eyewitness accounts against an abundance of accounts describing a large twin-engine jetliner like a 757. 9-11 Research extracted from the Eric Bart Pentagon eyewitness compilation those accounts that described the appearance of the airplane. It found 11 witnesses describing a large jetliner compared to only two describing a small jet. Furthermore the two small-plane witnesses were both considerable distances from the plane.

http://www.oilempire.us/inplanesite.html
"911: In Plane Site" - a bad joke hidden "in plain sight"

http://www.oilempire.us/pentagon.html
The Pentagon attack:
How the "no plane" theories are used to discredit 9/11 skepticism and distract from proven evidence of complicity

http://www.oilempire.us/bogus.html
Bogus 9/11 websites
Muddying the waters with easily disproved phony claims to discredit the 9/11 Truth Movement?

New 9/11 video evidence analysis at questionsquestions.net:

Analysis of Flight 175 "Pod" and related claims
http://www.questionsquestions.net/WTC/pod.html

Webfairy's Reign of Error
http://www.questionsquestions.net/WTC/webfairy.html

The WTC "Mystery Explosion" Video Hoax
http://www.questionsquestions.net/WTC/hoax.html

"A honey pot, in intelligence jargon, is a tempting source of information or 'dangle' that is set out to lure intended victims into a trap. Ultimately the honey pot is violently and maliciously discredited so as to destroy the credibility of anything stuck to it by association."
-- Michael Ruppert, "Crossing the Rubicon," p. 184

"The 9/11 Truth Movement gives one insight why the term 'conspiracy theorist' came to be shorthand for "discredited whacko" in the invisible guidebook of mainstream media. "Suddenly, it's not hard to understand why the obvious anomalies in the JFK assassination never received proper attention in accepted media channels."
"If you have just as many nutty theories about the driver of the limo turning around and shooting JFK as you have honest scientific inquiries about the real probability of multiple shooters, the wheat drowns in the chaff."
-- Sander Hicks, journalist and publisher

Oh, I certainly don't doubt that there WERE eye-witnesses who saw a twin-engined airliner. That doesn't mean it hit the building. That flight had to have gone somewhere, but the damage to the Pentagon could NOT have been caused by a large, passenger aircraft. Passenger aircraft are NOT STRONG! They can't survive collision with an armoured building. Like a shotgun slug, they splat. The fact that the object that hit the Pentagon proceeded THAT FAR through the building means that it was a hardened, armour-piercing weapon. Something along the lines of a Maverick or Durandal missile. The question at hand is not 'who said what', it is 'A plane could not have caused that damage.'

If the flight didn't crash into the pentagon then where did Flight 77 land safely? Think about that one?

Easy, there was NO flight 77.... duh.

Stupids

wings on a jet sweep back from the body of the plane, therefor as they hit solid objects the sholder shears off and fuel detonates while the body of the plane entered the building.
Planes are not made of much the one downed off Newfoundland hardly made a splash breaking up into more than two million pieces in the air before it hit the sea

The plane that went down over queens NY post 911 is more of a mystery...always overlooked

There is no doubt that the attack occured, the ministry of mystery should be asking why was it called terrorism?
that was a military surgical strike as were all attacks on 911, millitary targets and economic with acceptable levels of collateral damage

Who are you working for Saudi Arabia or maybe Al Qaeda direct? 3,000 pepole, including Canadians, were murdered by radical Islamic terrorists from the AQ led by Osama. Any attempt to say otherwise is to support Canada's enemies. Are you one.

Checkout this animated graphic.

19 Arabs murdered 3,000 people. Plain and simple. Who is apying you to post these outrageous allegations? Saudis?

For the full story of the above demostration graphic, see: YET ANOTHER 9/11 SMOKING GUN at

http://thunderbay.indymedia.org/news/2004/11/16761_comment.php#16762

Show me a crappy animation with the WTC actually in it and I might listen to you.

Oh, have any of you geniuses ever wonder what happened to the people who died on that flight that didn't exist?

You're really so naive and gullable that it makes my head hurt.

Note the rows of explosive detonating right across the visible faces of the tower.

Also note the rows of explosive detonating right across the face of the South Tower.

19 Arabs murdered 3,000 people. Plain and simple. Who is apying you to post these outrageous allegations? Saudis?

What do you think? Nice animated gif, eh?

There is a lot of name calling on this "comment board". It is my experience with arguments that people who resort to name calling, such as "idiot" or "stupid", do so because they have run out of intelligent arguments to make or lack the verbal capacity to hold intelligent conversation. Also the term "gullible" is tossed around quite often. Those who are truly gullible are the ones who believe whatever they hear first or are told to believe. Certainly there is substantial evidence to support the idea that the American government is hiding somethings from us regarding the 9/11 attacks. Of course, what they are hiding is only known to them. I appreciate all the efforts by people to "think outside the box" and the people who are willing to question authority. Keep it up, opposing veiwpoints inevitably lead to truth.

The real mind control comes when everyone expends energy debating the actual crash instead of paying attention to what the government did after 9/11. The Bush Administration took the worst intelligence failure in this countries history and spun it into a re-election victory. We are all truly stupid for letting this happen. President Bush took his biggest mistake and turned into is best accomplishment. What did he really accomplish? He ignored intelligence, allowed the terrorists to attack, and did nothing while our country was being attacked. Not only did the Republicans spin their failures into victories, but they have stripped us of our rights and will continue to strengthen their power and wealth while weakening everyone elses. They are using the tradgedy of dead Americans to achieve their goals of power and money and all we can do is argue over what exactly hit the pentagon. Wake up folks!

Oh man. When I first saw this documentary/short film, I must admit, it freaked me out. It made me wonder, is our government lying to us? Trying to protect us from the truth? I pondered for quite some time, wondering in a confused state of mind, "What DID happen? And if it WASN'T a plane, why is our government lying to us? When my friends saw this, they were rather......uncomfortable. The music was kind of erie, and, it made them think questions similar to mine. It makes me feel surreal to know that something can go from regular everyday life, to death, and utter chaos, and I often wonder, "are we really safe? May this every happen to me?" This catastrophe has changed my thoughts, and some actions....made me a appreciate life much more, and imprinted in my mind "Is the man trying to bring me down?"

It's such a shame to see good people brain-washed by the lying, greedy, leeches running the America. I don't believe that people wouldn't understand the motive for the government to do this. If you can't see it your being blind and your being ignorant. They staged this whole process so that they can flip it on and make it seem like it's your "patriotic duty" to fight for them for their own gain. They trick you into the simple thinking that if you don't fight for your country your not doing your part as an American citizen. Bullshit. When will people wake up and think for themselves. The governmant has been brainwashing us for years. THINK FOR YOURSELF. 1.

Holy shit!!! What goes around comes around, thats all I can say.

Samuel Lawrence

It should be pointed out that while what happened at the Pentagon is rather suspect, the incidents at the WTC can hardly be called a hoax. I have no idea what the actual numbers are, but I'd say about ten thousand people were within sight of the towers when the planes hit, and if any of them had anything to say about it being hoaxed, I'm pretty sure Micheal Moore would have exploited them already.

I'd also like to point out the fact that a plane striking a concrete building would produce a vibration in the bulding powerful enough to probably shatter every window on the building. This could only occur, however, if the object was stopped on the outside of the object and all of it's energy and momentum was transferred into the walls, instead of continuing through the structure. (note: no, I don't have a physics degree or anything; this is just a hypothesis).

Another thing I should point out that regardless of what we can say about flight 77 never existing, I'm pretty confident a person could be found who would testify that they watched a relative or friend get onto that plane, and never heard from them again. Regardless of whether they were shot down by the air force and that was covered up in the confusion, there were people who did die on flight 77.

And that leads to my last point. Jet A fuel burns hot. No doubt about that. Regardless of what damage would have been done to about everything within several hundred feet of the crash (5,300 gallons of fuel? That's what, 21 kL of fuel, ish? That amount of fuel, under standard pressures and such would have exploded outwards and incinerated everything within a pretty long range) including the grass, there is one gruesome detail. Despite how hot it would have burned, the direct force of the explosions would have thrown the bodies of the people on the plane into the air. While it may have been good camera work and fast coroners, I have not seen a single charred corpse in any pictures.

With that said, I would like to say that yes, there probably is something the governent is hiding about the whole 9/11 thing. It could be some monumental conspiracy, or it could just be that they knew this was going to happen and had a severe invincibility complex about it. Either way, this was an extremely well done animation, which I enjoyed. Nice work setting the mood with the music too.

Disclaimer: Don't quote me on anything. Anything I've said here is solely a hypothesis, with some experience and education behind it.

de said "Easy, there was NO flight 77.... duh."

Woah, hold on a second. Tell that to the families that lost people from flight 77. I myself personaly know someone that had a family member on that flight.

Were grieving relatives not interviewed? What happened to the people on that flight if there was no flight? No intrepid reporter looks for the plane that was scheduled to fly? No one saw it take off? Why look for conspiracy when stupidity answers so much. Occams Razor.

a very nice animation. riveting. I sent the link to all of my friends. you just need to slow it down a little bit so you can read the words and still study the pictures.

I am not sure what I am convinced *did* happen, but it seems rather unlikely that the pentagon was struck by flight 77. The most convincing points? The pentagon security camera shots look like a very small object, travelling at a *freaky* low altitude; *someone* on the freeway should have been injured by the jet's passage, and the lack of damage to the pentagon lawn. Of course, this doesn't prove a government conspiracy to fake an attack, but they're plainly hiding something.

If a 757 hit the pentagon or not, I don't know. However, picking one small possibility of evidence like the vehicle being blown off the taxiway and associating it with the flyover of the beltway and its cars is flawed.

1. the 747 is on the ground and has the channeling benefit of the ground to direct more energy at the vehicle that was towed behind it by the fire truck. Forces will drop off significantly if you are not directly behind the exhaust. If that were the case on the beltway, the vehicles would almost have to have been sucked thru the engine.

2. Whatever crossed the beltway at low altitude was moving fast, using that thrust to go forward. Its forward movement offsets a great deal of the "back blast". In the animation, you have a stationary plane with an unknown throttle setting directing high velocity gasses aft to attempt to propel a large mass.

Don't get me wrong. I still think there is something wrong with the way the incident is officially portrayed, but I don't think this "back blast" animation is another clue.

Keep looking.

wow i been waiting for somebody to approach what really happened i been suspecting about this since " 9/11 " happened and now this leaves me without a doubt correct bout my beliefs. good job with this link i thank you for it and somebody should approach this to the government and set the clip world wide on the news which will show americans how the government can sometimes lead us off on the wrong foot. and i think the answer to some of you guys question, " where did the 757 dissapear to then " i think the governemt is behind this and has not said the truth so americans wont know the truth bout 9/11 nation wide. nation wide knowing will lead many citizens to terror and feel unsafe in the U.S.. and the governemt does not want that. well just letting out my opinion if you took your time to read this thanks im out l8er

Although it was a great tragedy, the events of 9/11 just go to prove that this great nation's system is slowly starting to collapse. This nation has undergone so many "cover-ups" (JFK assassination, MLK assassination, Malcolm X assassination, J. Edgar Hoover's 'Cointelpro' program to destroy the Black Panther Party, etc...) that it's tactics have been watered down so that even a child can question the incidents now. Although one could question the validity of this article, the fact remains that this article has come about and has raised so many eyebrows. You couldn't even fathom a viewpoint of this type to come into fruition 10, 15, or 20 years ago. The good thing is people are starting to think for themselves and ask questions and at least that's a positive step. Don't get me wrong; I am a proud American but I don't possess so much pride that I'm gonna shut my eyes and deny that my country is without its faults. To do so would be to display a "gang" mentality.

If only they could have shown this on television before the election *sigh* only 4 more years right?

~PFC Aldridge~

I dont believe that a 757 Boeing plane hit the Pentagon. Its all just one big government conspiracy!

this is directed towards "MIB Microsoft is back" who posted their comment on Monday September 06, 2004 at 12:57 PM. if you have the vidoes to prove it then show us

In regards to your comment:

this is directed towards "MIB Microsoft is back" who posted their comment on Monday September 06, 2004 at 12:57 PM. if you have the vidoes to prove it then show us

MIB Microsoft is Back was obviously being sarcastic.

When MIB writes at the end of the comment - "BTW excellent!!!! ", BTW stands for "By the way" in case you didn't know.

My favorite part of this movie is the music... it is almost chilling

Idiots or Americans (?) that try to undercut this Great Country of ours? If this one doesn't piss you off in a short time I don't know what will. Never knew that there were so many self proclaimed structural engineers out there....strike one more point for the need for better education!

Obviously you've got an Anti-semitic mentality. Do a little more research next time and be able to back up your sources. There were almost two million Jews killed at Auschwitz. If you doubt that there were two million Jews killed at Auschwitz then you probably also doubt that the Holocaust even occured. Let me be the first to tell you it most certainly occured.

If you believe that the Jews were behind 9/11 then you probably think that they control the media and horde their money and are cheap. All of these are false accusations made by a person or people looking for a scapegoat. Jews arent responsible for the worlds problems, look for someone else to lay the blame on. There's this theory called Achem's razor, it states that the simples answer is usually the correct one. So, did the Jews frame the Arabs? The answer is NO.

It is funny how conspiracy theories like this happen now with the advent of the internet. Now we get to hear the opinions of people who have no experience or knowledge on which to base those opinions.
"There is no way the Pentagon was hit by a plane because I read a guy's comment on another site that said he heard an engineer say that a hole like this could never be formed by an airplane collision. We all alsio take for granted, the universal truth, that the internet is a flawless bevy of factual information BTW.
-OR-
Look at the spools of wire in this video that obviously would have been destroyed in an impact with an airplane; BUT, you can't believe the video of the actual collision because video can be fabricated or altered.

Furthermore... leave the freakin Jews out of every petty conspiracy out there, they have enough shit to deal with as it is, this goes for Arabs as well. EVen if they are true, I have been hearing about it my whole life and I think I am ready to start blaming other people just for the sake of mixing it up a bit. Could we not just start blaming Americans for stuff? Why don't we start blaming the Norwegians, they get by with too few accusations of conspiracy as it is. I think they orchestrated the whole 911 attack in order to plunder the booty from the village of New Amsterdam the way they would have in the Viking days. There was a lot of silver exchange going on in the Trade Center.... (nudge, nudge, wink, wink) It's all right there in the history books!.

Personally I think that we did it. It was Jean Cretian. You know how much he hated George Bush. Plus if we take over the US then we'll be able to save a shit load of money on Florida land! Not to mention that Jean propably thinks that the White House is way cooler that Sussex Drive.

The Jews haven't caught a break in 2,000 years. Why not, just for a century or two, cut them some slack? You anti Semite leftists hearing any of this?

Yup. You know how equality and the meeting of social needs before capital needs goes so well with hating Jews...

WHAT?!@?! This is the most slanderous attack you've ever launched on "Leftists" and it's just as intolerable as the comments above.

I believe that this material is posted by conspiracy theorists who also fall under the spell of believing that Jewish conspiracies hold poor people down. Maybe they're national socialists, maybe they're just Illuminati nerds. Really, I think that all this stuff should be hidden because attacks against any group of people still qualifies as hate. But there is nothing at all in this article or the subsequent zillion postings that would suggest that they're associated with Leftist movements in any way.

Ronan, I'll call you on it every time. Hate is no way to start a conversation.

That being said, I will admit that I have noticed a strong resurgence in anti-semitism worldwide since the Intifada 2000 began. Maybe it's because the issue is so complicated and the images in the news conjure up such extreme emotions. It's hard to compare who has it worse when one team is being bombed, scudded, curfewed and shot by soldiers who can't take it anymore while the other team lives in constant terror and fear that they could unexpectedly be killed at any moment by civilians who can't take it anymore.

But to blame it on the Leftists is delusional.

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I did specifically state that some not all leftists were anti Semitic. They hide under the guise of being anti Zionist, but once you scratch the surface they're just a bunch of Jew haters. I didn’t say that that was you. Now the far right (a group that I do not adhere to) is as bad as the far left if not worse. Well, maybe they're just more honest about it. It seems to me that the further that one deviates form the centre, the worse the bigotry tends to get in any particular group. One of the reasons that I tend to be a small c conservative with a libertarian bent. I’m sorry if you’re personally offended but the truth can hurt sometimes. Take a hard look at some of your confreres and listen very carefully to what they say. When they talk about Zionists in government and conspiricies etc. they might as well be taking their talking notes from The Protocols of Zion. And you have chosen to ally youself with some that have this attitude. Personally, I don't associate with anyone that throws around the Z word, because mostly it's just code. We are known by the company that we keep. It was true 5,000 years ago and it's true today.

To accuse someone of being a Jew-hater because they are outspoken against the actions of some violent and powerful people is ridiculous slander.

It is also a great disservice to to those Jews who are used as tools by the powers that be, an excuse to commit attrocities, escalating the violence and danger for everyone on both sides. The Zionists are wealthy and have many benefactors, for example the IDF, mostly funded by the United States.

Obviously you don't like the "Z Word", because you probably are one. Using religion as an excuse to justify military actions intended to terrorize, steal land and water, and make hundreds of thousands of people refugees in their own native land is disgusting, in my opinion the work of true scum. Neither America nor Israel will succeed in enforcing their contrived world view by force. Resistance is real and will not go away until a lot of people get free.

Zionists are in the corridors of Ottawa and Washington. They have allt he money too don't they? They're everywhere! Although..... I'm willing to bet that some of your best friends are Jews?

When you weep for the murdered Israeli men, women and children civilians that have been slaughtered by suicide bombers then I'll stop calling anti Zionists anti Semites. Until then you're nothing but a bunch of white hooded bastards. Why not just put on the brown shirts then we can all see you for what you are?

You' seem to be a very confused and sad person. You are on here constantly promoting policies of murder, racism and colonialism in the name of Pax Americana and then almost in the same breath you refer to others as nazis even though nothing they've said reveals hatred. You spew hate and then accuse others of hatred. You condemn murder and then call for it. Can you see the hypocrisy in your approach?

Give your head a shake.

How is my concern for the dead and dying on both sides of the Palestinian / Israeli troubles promoting murder and racism? As opposed to people like you who see only one side of these sorts of problems, and dehumanize the other side. I see both. It's that kind of an attitude that allows people to justify murder and genocide. I've never espoused hatred against any identifiable group in my life that I’m aware of. So, I'd be appreciative if you would be kind enough to cut and paste some examples of my promotion of murder, racism and colonialism, so that I can see where I’ve gone wrong? Because, I’m interested in self-improvement, if you would only show me the way.

As to my feelings about the Americans, I do not promote Pax Americana as you call it. But I do have the experience to know that there have been, will be and are far worse things in the world than the United States. They are also our protector, as our government in its wisdom has seen fit not to do it for ourselves. They are not the great Satan or the new Rome or any other trite and tired expression that you can come up with. Just the last remaining super power trying to keep the lid on.

As to my mood. I am actually a very happy and content individual. Comfortable in my personal philosophy and place in the world. I don't suffer from the sort of chronic indignance that your sort do. But I do thank you for your concern about my state of happiness. It’s nice to know that your love for your fellow man includes me as well. I’ll sleep better.

Who knows maybe it wasn't a boeing plane that hit the pentagon. Maybe it was a missile. But have you taken into consideration that if it was a missile and from another country. That the goverment might cover it up so that there wasn't a public outcry for war. For example say it was some off the wall Russian sub commander. He was mad at the US and wanted to teach us a lesson. So he shots a missile at the pentagon from his sub. Which they could easily do. The military finds out and trys to find the sub but they can't, however they do know its a Russian sub becuz the Russians tell us a sub commander went off the wall. So the goverment covers it up to avoid a full blown war with Russia. See the movie Rules of Engagement to see my point. I doubt that the goverment is just covering it up because it is corrupt. There is always a reason why the public can not know certain information.

To the foolish come the wrath of the West.

abilaboola da la ja yo babba laz momma

giveth up thy arms least ye begatch the wrath.

How the hell are they going to fire a missile without no one noticing it?

Hey Jacka**, First Of All, You fail to realize, 767's Hit the World Trade Centers, You cant even begin to compare the 767 and the 757, except for the fact that they both have 2 engines both mounted on the wings. Also, The 757 Is A NARROW-BODY Aircraft, And it can easily have punched those holes in the pentagon as seen in that bulls*** movie. So Before you begin to bitch, why dont you consult the facts.

Seriously people. Where did the wings and tail go? Where did 60 tons of plane and 5,400 gallons of fuel go?!?!?! I was there, I did see a plane, but not a Boeing 757. What I saw and have on tape is a small jet capable of holding roughly 8-12 people at most. I can see that going into the Pentagon w/o Wake Turbulence on the highway, which is another thing you egostitistical a$$holes. I was on the highway, my car didnt flip-flop when it went over head. BUILDINGS DONT EAT PLANES!! A Boeing 757 did NOT crash into the Pentagon. A small jet DID!!! IDIOTS! get your effing sources right!!! I sick of you America-hating bastards. Get over it. You lost. Game over. No I havent even seen that damn animation. I have my F*CKING VIDEO TAPE!! i dont need you telling me that I saw something different when I didnt. Feel free to e-mail me if you want to argue this out. I. WILL. WIN.

Post it here Jen. I'll look at it. So far I've seen no video showing anything but how it was described. So post away and we'll see.

I was part of the collapse rescue team assigned to the Pentagon attack. It always seemed strange there was never more airplane debris scattered around.

Interesting blog anyword on guides?

Brother ask some people that got killed or at least their families. Keep the hoax thing to yourself

Why does every major story have to have a cover up?

Why conspiracy theories?

Well for one thing, for it to be otherwise would mean that allot of the adherents at this site would have to accept that the US could actually be a victim on occasion. That rankles many. They can’t accept that Pax Romana and people that did nothing wrong and who just happen to be Americans could actually have bad things that are undeserved happen to them. It would mean that these are complex and confusing times and that not all is as black and white as they would like it to be. It’s simpler to believe the US is all bad and would do it, but the Arabs are all good and couldn't. The dancing Mossad agents did it, or GWB did it, or anyone who the conspiracy theorist happens to dislike.

Also, there is the amusement factor. Conspiracies are a lot more fun that accepting that a group of nasty nasty men slaughtered a whole bunch of innocents. Much more fun and interesting to get together with your buds to discuss how that shit Bush did it and doesn’t that just confirm what a devious asshole he is? Although I’ve always wondered how he could be a moron and a devious asshole at the same time? Or the Jews did it, and doesn’t that just prove that they’re a bunch of soulless pricks. No one ever believes a conspiracy that weakens his or her political opinions. Only conspiracies that justify people’s politics are allowed.

Would this thread have gone on since September 3rd 2004 if it wasn’t fun to argue about it?

Bunk I with ya this is BUNK!!!!

What exactly is a target link? Sorry Todd

I going to pass on some advise that a smart young man gave to me a couple of years ago. POST SPARINGLY!

Don't clog up the bandwidth with allot of crap. Contribute to the threads where you actually have something to say and leave the rest alone.